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Art, activism and the de-centering of self: An interview with Kardinal Bloo

Hailing from Texas, US, Kardinal Bloo is a young, versatile artist who brings a lot of colour to the current world of hip-hop, especially the colour blue. The album shines with a love for life as well as an understanding of the current state of affairs. As Bloo so eloquently puts it, his new album, Birds Rap Too, is “an eclectic collection of black expression that merges revolutionary pragmatism, scintillating lyricism, and earnest joie de vivre to create what I call class-conscious rap nonsense from a bird’s eye view.”

This hip-hop album stays interesting throughout, and it’s not only because it’s heavily, and uniquely, centered on birds. In the style of some of the greats out there, like Kendrick and Childish Gambino, Bloo is not afraid to up switch the flow in his songs, keeping the listener on his toes at all times. Add some dope beats and exhilarating lyricism and you’ve got an extremely vibrant rap album whose existence is greatly magnified by Bloo’s live shows. Check out his Instagram for video proof, or better yet, catch him live in Los Angeles on November 9th at Den Music Fest.

HK: At times, your voice reminds me of Andre 3000, is that just me or has someone told you that before?

KB: Hahaha yea I’ve been told that before. I’ve been compared to a lot of people, but that’s my favorite one.

HK: Why that name, Kardinal Bloo? Where does that come from?

KB:  I love blue, and I love birds!  During quarantine in 2020, I started bird watching a lot. The first bird that I could recognize by call alone was the Northern Cardinal, so they have a special place in my heart. Blue’s one of my favorite colors. It can represent so many different things. Cold, tranquility, sadness, the ocean, the sky, etc. I was tossing around these sentiments to my girlfriend & she came up with Kardinal Bloo. I was like, that’s dope as fuck!

HK: You mention lesser of two evils in the last song of your new album. This problem, the tradition of only two options, is common in many parts of the world, due to long-standing, systematic corruption. (It sure exists here in México, where I am, but not as much in my native Iceland). Do you think this will ever change in your native US? Do you see people around you who try to change that narrative, who vote outside the two-party system?

KB: I don’t think it will change in the US, so long as the US is the US, if you catch my drift. All empires collapse and that’s really the horse I’m bettin’ my chips on. Building something new in the aftermath. I think the illusion of democracy is a cornerstone of the US. Once you realize that the two major parties are two wings on the same bird, everything starts to make more sense. They work in tandem and need each other. Other party options that could  possibly be better can’t actually exist in earnest, because a bird can’t have 3 wings. And the bird is a bad, bad bird that can’t be rehabilitated hahahaha. It’s a silly metaphor, but pretty apt methinks. The idea that electoral politics, in a country that was designed to keep us down from its inception, will somehow save us, is the narrative I think needs to be changed. I see people around that have the capacity to imagine a world outside the false binary of electoral politics. That are focused on creating new infrastructures centered around community, taking care of the people in our direct vicinity, and building outwards in solidarity with others that share our aims. Those are the people I try to surround myself with. I ain’t tryna wait around til we “lesser of two evils” ourselves into extinction.

HK: You mention freedom for Haiti, Palestine, Sudan, Congo and all your „homies“ around the world who are oppressed. Hip-hop has always had its activist, anti-authority side, although historically perhaps more focused on the systematic oppression black people have had to endure in the US. Now that rap has gone more global, do you see many of your peers looking outside the US through their rap and their music? What does it mean to you to see the state of global hip-hop community?

KB: Hiiiiip Hoooooop!!!! I love that this thing which has given me life is also beloved on a world stage!!! The duo that I started out rapping with was called Global Octopus, and one of my favorite songs we ever made is called Neo Griot Anthem, meant to be a song for the francophone African diaspora, but also for Black people, period. The people I associate with, I think have always had a sort of worldly orientation towards, not completely US-centric. All struggles for freedom against fascism, white supremacy, imperialism, etc. are interconnected. I think a music and culture born from the struggle of an oppressed people was bound to catch on globally. The coolest & most creative stuff generally comes from oppressed people.  ‘Cause we be lackin’ shit, and necessity leads to innovation. And Hip-Hop’s gotta be the coolest thing on the planet. How could you not like it? Any marginalized person (this includes kids in general) in the world could find something within the vast domain of Hip-Hop that resonates with them. I love seeing people embrace Hip-Hop in the proper context. The commercialized global stuff that doesn’t respect Hip-Hop as a culture though, not so much. *Glares at K-Pop* It’s inevitable under capitalism, but annoying nonetheless. I will say though, that I’m not plugged into cool rap shit happening outside of the US. But I’d like to be! I’d like to visit different countries and see the scenes firsthand. Eventually, definitely.

HK: Some people draw a line between music and activism and say the two should be separated. What is your take on that and how and if the two should mix?

KB: The two are separated, and they aren’t. EMBRACE THE CONTRADICTION!!! Ultimately, the context is everything. There’s an ecosystem of change that requires many different roles to create a better world. Planning, building, teaching, healing, telling stories, making art, etc. Everybody’s got to play their part(s). ‘Cause there can be overlap. Music can be activism when it’s made with that intention and coupled with action on the part of the artist. I think the part people get twisted up is that a lot of artists just make music. That’s it. Then people make the mistake of thinking, “That artist is an activist!” because their music speaks on social issues. Making a song that says “the system’s fucked up!!” is not inherently activism, you feel me. I think some artists make that mistake too. Artists being activists can be a slippery slope ‘cause a lot of artists are driven by ego, which has no place in activism. People often look to artists to tell them what to think and how to be, so an activist artist can turn into someone with a savior complex real quick. There needs to be a certain level of discernment and a de-centering of self for it to work. But it can work!

HK: Who are among your inspirations (artists and non-artists alike)?

KB: The natural word always inspires me. Shout out all my birds! Whatever artists I’m rockin’ with at a certain time inspire me, and right now that’s mostly the Austin homies. CENSORED dialogue, Free Hamze, YoursTruuly/Locuust, Chucky Blk, Jaize, seina sleep, just to name a few. Also Quelle Chris, Cavalier, Denmark Vessey, Open Mike Eagle, and Koreatown Oddity.  When I first started though, it was Lupe Fiasco, Noname, Outkast, Busta Rhymes, Radiohead. To be honest, there’s a million more artists I could name but for the sake of brevity I’mma stop here.

HK: What do you hope to achieve with your music?

KB: Happiness! For myself and others. To expand at least a few people’s horizons. A sustainable career built on community. A music co-op(?). A life of exploration and collaboration.

HK: Anything else you‘d like to shout from the rooftops?

KB: COVID IS STILL HERE, KILL THE COP IN YOUR HEAD, PARTICIPATE IN MUTUAL AID, TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR, DON’T BE AFRAID TO BE WRONG, KAMALA AIN’T GONE SAVE YOU NEITHER, BIRDS RAP TOO!

EXCLUSIVE ALBUM PREMIERE: Until I Seen It All (EP) by Dereos Roads

Mixing boom bap, blues, hip-hop, soul and new age soundscapes is what Dereos Roads has been doing for around 20 years out of Pittsburgh, US. A veteran in the hip-hop scene, he’s shared the stage with the likes of Tech N9ne, Aesop Rock, Mr. Lif, Fat Lip, Blueprint and more.

Roads’ new EP, Until I Seen It All, which explores themes of struggle, perseverance and self-discovery, drops on all streaming platforms on September 18th but you can here it exclusively, in full, here on Shouts – Music from the Rooftops!

Dereos Roads. Photo by Derek Tull. Used with permission.

When I asked Roads what sets the new EP apart from his previous projects, he told me that it has a far more alternative rock vibe to it. As far as the songwriting goes, Roads is continuing on the journey he embarked on with ‘Worlds Apart’ (2023) and he says he is still sharing the space with the listener, no longer judging, and just wanting people to enjoy the music.

Hip-hop has always had an anti-establishment side to it and that is something that appealed to him from the beginning. Artists who, in the late 1990s, went against the commercialisation of hip-hop music and culture were those who influenced him above anyone else.

“For a long time, it was clear there wasn’t much interest from the suits to expose or get behind political rap after Public Enemy’s high-water mark in the mid 90s. They’re not interested in anyone rocking the boat. Rage Against the Machine is probably the biggest band to have a sizable reach while being authentically conscious and opposed to who runs the world. I think, aside from marketers and corporations figuring out how to sell anti-capitalism as a brand, activist music is no longer the center piece if it’s a part of a band’s identity. It’s a temporary detour from music that’s often edgy, but very much appealing to a demographic already on the side of the artist. It’s a choice not very much different than a set list that includes a song played in minor key after multiple songs in major. Very few are willing to risk alienating the listener. I used to think that was a sign of weakness or a lack of integrity. I don’t anymore.”

When I asked Roads about music and activism and how the two should or should not mix, he replied that there’s a time and place for both to co-exist.

“There are acts who became popular decades ago getting booed today for bringing their politics on stage, and I don’t blame the crowd. Most people want to experience your music, not your politics. At an organized protest or rally for labor, you’ve got them on your side when you say eat the rich. I really don’t think a straightforward political message in a song is going to resonate with anyone who doesn’t already agree with you. That’s where creativity comes into play, and the ability to write a song that doesn’t point the finger at someone for their place on the political spectrum, and instead connects with them because of your unique point of view; your perspective on a universal human experience. That’s what I tried to do with “Flowers From the Rubble.” [the second song off the new EP] I don’t mention a state. I call out a bully. I allude to the hypocrisy & complicity of the U.S. in the war on Gaza (“handed ’em the bomb while supplyin’ aid”). I explain why Gen Z is outraged and how their plight is very much the same plight of the generation before them (my own). But there’s still optimism for the future. ‘When it showers, you can see the grown flowers through the puddle.'”

So what’s next for Roads? And what does he hope to achieve with his music?

“For me, making music is a beautiful, therapeutic experience with a goal of a transcendent outcome. The way someone experiences it from the other side as a listener is always going to be different from person to person, but I hope they at least feel better about themselves and about life; that they’re not alone; that there’s value in art; there’s value in poetry and songwriting; and everything from the melody, words and the way they are sung has a part to play in that everlasting feeling which transcends one song’s duration. So in the end, I hope my art reaches out and surprises them along the way, whoever and wherever they may be.

Besides the new album, I’m in the midst of taking my role as a musician one step further with plans in my area to become a mentor of sorts for younger musicians who, like me, don’t reside within walking distance of a major city. I’d love to share more about it when I’m a lot closer to that reality.”

All songs written, produced, recorded & mixed by Dereos Roads.

Guitar by Dereos Roads.

“Until I Seen it All” bass guitar by Kevin Nolan & Dereos Roads.
“Flowers From the Rubble” bass guitar by Sean Zuza.
“Radio” co-written by Real Deal & Dereos Roads.

Mastered by Ayé. I.
Artwork by Allison Austad.

Surface Level Records 2024


“Speaking out politically is not just the artist’s right; it is imperative” – interview with Lisa Marie Simmons

For some people, music is a healing power, for some it is entertainment, and for others it is a life saving shelter. For Lisa Marie Simmons, music plays a role that encompasses all of the above. After a difficult childhood Simmons found solace in music and poetry which eventually led her on a path of art and exploration around the world. She finally settled in Italy where she leads two different ensembles , Hippe Tendencies and NoteSpeak, along with producer and songwriter Marco Cremaschini.

Simmons and Cremaschini released NoteSpeak 12 back in February, an eclectic mix of jazz, hip-hop beats, fusion and spoken word that grooves seamlessly throughout. Simmons’ work is always socially conscious she told me via email. Samia from their first NoteSpeak album was inspired by a documentary Simmons saw about the sad story of Samia Yusuf Omar. Simmons found the author of the book that the documentary was based on: Don’t Tell Me You’re Afraid by Giuseppe Catozzella. Simmons wanted to shine a light on the horrendous numbers of refugees lost to the sea every year, an end to life that she, if not for the luck of a birthplace, might have had to endure herself. Simmons went further in her research for the song and eventually made contact with Samia’s sister, who did make it across the Mediterranean, who gave her blessing for Simmons to share Samia’s story in song.

HK: What’s the backstory here?

LM: I grew up in the U.S., in Boulder, Colorado of the 70s and 80s – hippiedom and counterculture movements. Progressive yes in many ways, culturally diverse, not at all. I was adopted and raised by a Black father and a white mother and I found myself navigating the complexities of race and identity from a young age. My upbringing was marked by a blend of tension and creativity, as I sought refuge in words and music to escape the abuse in our household and the challenges of being a minority in a predominantly white community.

HK: Do you find yourself connected equally to both music and writing?

LM: Absolutely. Music and writing have always been intertwined in my life, serving as both a form of expression and activism. I’ve found solace and empowerment in both mediums. Whether through songs, essays, poems or stories, I strive to amplify marginalized voices and challenge societal norms.

HK: And perhaps an activist as well?

LM: Without a doubt. Activism is at the core of my identity and creative endeavors. I’ve been involved in various social movements throughout my life. My activism manifests through my art, as I use music and writing to advocate for change and do my best to inspire others to join the fight for justice.

My journey as a multi-disciplinary storyteller has been shaped by my experiences growing up as often the only Black person in the room. Through my art, I strive to challenge, among other issues, systemic racism, white supremacy and the patriarchy one song and one poem at a time.

HK: Have you always been concerned about the world around you, the politics of it all?

LM: Growing up in a predominantly white community, and the household I did, there was not much I could find that reflected me. In the town library, though, I found books by people like Alice Walker, James Baldwin and Maya Angelou that showed me another world and how the past informs the present; the institutional racism woven into the fabric of America from its inception. I was keenly aware of the injustices and inequalities that existed in my own home town which helped build empathy for those outside of my experience. I firmly believe that sharing our stories is the key to building compassion. From a young age, I found myself drawn to activism and social justice, whether it was participating in protests or in movements like streaking (Boulder in the 70s!).

Young Lisa Marie, painted by her adoptive mother (used with permission).

HK:  Has your music always been a tool and a voice for the oppressed or the voiceless, or was there a switch at one point?

LM: Music in general has always been a powerful tool for expressing and reflecting the issues of today. From my earliest encounters with literature and music, I was drawn to works that spoke truth to power and shed light on social injustices. I have tried since I began writing and composing to amplify the voices of those whose stories are not in the mainstream’s consciousness. I often use my own intimate and personal experiences to speak to larger issues. From the moment I witnessed the power of protest and expression as a child, I knew that music would be my medium for challenging the status quo. While my approach to activism and advocacy has evolved over the years, my commitment to using stories as a medium for connection has remained steadfast. Whether through songs, essays or poetry, I continue to use my art as a platform for change and empowerment.

HK: Can you tell me a bit about the process of making NoteSpeak 12 and what you wanted to achieve with it?

LM: The making of NoteSpeak 12 was a journey filled with serendipitous encounters and creative synergy. My co-founder, Marco Cremaschini, and I met in Brescia in 2005 after several near misses of crossing paths over the years. Our collaboration began as a result of our shared passion for music, both of us drawn to the others’ artistry. After so many years of working with one another it was an organic evolution from our first band Hippie Tendencies to the NoteSpeak project. The first album was NoteSpeak (Amori e Tragedie In Musica), NoteSpeak 12 was the sophomore offering and we are currently working on the third in the trilogy. We are intent on making sure Marco’s compositions and my words complement each other seamlessly.

Our creative process is collaborative and dynamic. We exchange ideas, trade work, and continuously push each other to explore new territories. The songs on NoteSpeak 12 are a reflection of this shared vision, each with its own story and inspiration. Some songs started from poetry, while others began with the music. Some musical ideas were mine, some concepts for the poems were Marco’s but all were intricately woven together to form a cohesive and expressive whole.

Our goal with NoteSpeak is to create a body of work that transcends traditional boundaries of music and poetry. We wanted to blur the lines between spoken word and music, allowing each to complement and enhance the other. Through this fusion, we aimed to convey a range of emotions and experiences, from introspective reflection to impassioned protest.

With NoteSpeak 12, Marco and I sought to continue this tradition by using our art as a platform for social commentary and protest. Each song on the album carries themes of resilience and resistance, addressing issues ranging from immigration to environmentalism. Through our music and poetry, we strive to spark dialogue, inspire action, and give voice to those who may otherwise go unheard. Through our collaboration, we hope to challenge conventions, provoke thought, and ultimately, effect change.

HK: Musicians that sing about politics, animal rights, women‘s rights and raise awareness about different issues sometimes get backlash and are told to keep politics out of music. What is your take on the connection between music and activism in your opinion? Why can music be such a powerful tool for getting a message across? 

LM: Speaking out politically is not just the artist’s right; it is imperative. In the course of shopping for a home for NoteSpeak (Amori e Tragedie In Musica), an A&R guy at a well-known indie label chastised me when I sent him the project, saying that, “It is not the musician’s job to be political.” I find it pretty much impossible to understand that stance. However, I know many musicians decline to perform for any political party for various reasons, chief among them not to risk alienating any fans who may be across the aisle. But to say that musicians should not voice an opinion on political issues makes me wonder what that A&R dude had been listening to. Famously, Bob Dylan refuses to endorse a political party, but c’mon now, the history of his oeuvre makes it very clear where he stands on a variety of issues. In today’s tumultuous political landscape, it’s more crucial than ever for artists to stand up and be heard, especially when faced with the cacophony of our world order’s rhetoric. I’m keenly aware that we are privileged in our birth countries, more so even by the fact that we can take the time to wrestle with such questions. Exceedingly lucky that we don’t suffer more pressing issues, such as having to take three hours out of our day to fetch water, fight for the right to an education, battle the suppression of free thought, or countless other obstacles. If the artist does not hold up a mirror to injustice we are missing an opportunity to effect positive change.

HK: Are you following other contemporary artists whom you‘d like to give a shout out to? Are you aware of other musicians, perhaps in your local scene or elsewhere, who use their talents in a similiar way as you? (I understand that you are in Italy at the moment, so you might have interesting perspectives on the music scenes there and in your native home?).

LM: So many. Esperanza Spalding, Aja Monet, Saul Williams, Ani DiFranco, Evan Greer, Angélique Kidjo, Buffy Sainte-Marie, Sarah Gee, and on and on and on. As for using their talents in a similiar way- there’s nothing new under the sun, except we are each our own little universe, our experiences form how we see and respond to what surrounds us, so each, if digging deep, is entirely unique. In Italy there’s a long history of musicians working for social change like DeAndrè, DeGregori, Gaber etc. Today there are voices from Afro Italians like writer, journalist, activist Igiaba Scego, whois a fiercely dedicated leader as is author, journalist, activist Cristina Ali Farah, another whom I deeply admire. Director, writer and actor Alfie Nze is making incredible films that inspire dialogue. Model and activist Bellamy has created the digital platform AfroItalian Souls celebrating AfroItalians while simultaneously providing a space to amplify black Italian voices. Afro-Italian queer immigration activist Medhin Paolos is a photographer, filmmaker, and musician whose current project in collaboration with Harvard University, “Mind the Gap” will have far-reaching effects as the heart of the work will be implemented in Italian classrooms. Activist Karima 2G makes music with a message. ARTivist Kwanza Musi Dos Santos is getting national attention with her non-profit work, as is interpreter, journalist, and activist Uche Bridget,  and so many more,  there are way too many marvels disguised as humans to list here. In my own little corner of Italia, I am awed by and honored to work with: Uno Collective, activist Francesca Sanneh is one of the collective’s intrepid leaders whose commitment and tireless energy to the cause inspires me daily – and Afrobrix. Musicians: Osasmuede Aigbe, Eva Fuedo Shoo, Daniela Savoldi, and Anna Bassy are talent and beauty personified while fighting the good fight.

HK: What musicians, authors or activists have inspired you in your life? What kind of extra curricular activism (outside your art) do you partake in, in one way or another?

LM: Again the list is endless. The usual luminaries Angela Davis, Alice Walker, Maya Angelou, Sonia Sanchez, Nina Simone, Audre Lorde, Mari Evans, James Baldwin, Toni Morrison, Nikki Giovanni, Billie Holiday, Marvin Gaye, Gil Scott-Heron and so many more. Coming of age in Boulder there were also the influences of Joan Baez, Woodie Guthrie, Bob Dylan and, again, so many more. As for extra curricular activism, I believe in living a life of conviction, and demonstrating one‘s ideals in every facet of the path we walk. You can find essays on my advocating for the rights of Black birth fathers, sharing stories on DAWTA the podcast with my co-host Dionne Draper to support the transracial adoptee community, writing about the racism in my adoptive mother’s family.

HK: What is on the horizon for you, musically and in life?

LM: At our artist residency at SUNY Oneonta in November we began writing the new NoteSpeak album in earnest and have begun full band rehearsals, now I’m hunting for the funds to head back into the studio to record it. Then we’ll tour it as widely as we can and perhaps I’ll then have more concentrated time to continue the work on my semi-autobiographical novel.

HK: Anything else you‘d like to shout from the rooftops?

LM: Love love love, always love.